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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 18 2008 20:03:14
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Rogers Rig
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QuoteHi, I've just had what I think is a valid point raised from another clubs member,[sent to me by email] This person has commented, "So does this mean Mo, that any American Vehicle owners club can just come on here and post what they like about their meets and shows etc?" This is a valid point I think, The answer is no! As established clubs we have to be seen to be working together, but there must obviously be a certain need for caution, Apart from the clubs I am personally aware of, containing people that i have actually dealt with in the past or recently, before any club can post their meets etc., I would need to talk to them first, I would need to do this purely as protector/guardian, call it what you will, Not every person in the world is a good person, unfortunately this is true, so a measure of caution has be to used before we would allow just anyone to post, i would expect this to be the case with other clubs, although we show kindness, this can not be taken as a green light to take any liberties with another clubs Forum, I would conduct myself by the rules of that club and I would wish the same for us, Its a very delicate situation, we obviously must take care and step wisely, Thanks Mo. What is the criteria for this?? Do you mean Proper Clubs with democratically elected officials or self appointed Officials?? clubs that have been around for say over 10 years or how long is it to be Established?? or is clubs with say over 500 members how big is big in your eyes ?? or how small is Small? I have posted on your forum and your members post on our club forum, I have attended your Shows and Meets and your members come to our shows and meets so where is the problems?? The only problem I can see is where our SHOWS CLASH and members are given no choice or very little choice its one or the other when they could well have gone to both. I know we have changed dates only to find later that other show dates have also changed so it back to square one and are clashing with us again. This is the area that need discussing, members sort out their own problems and get on with enjoying their hobby. As I said I only wanted to inform your members of our area meet change of venue and not get involved in the politics and the rights and wrongs but "its good to talk"
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 18 2008 20:12:32
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i think its simple common sense rog as to what and who posts were without taking the mick, like you say some support what they can and aint bothered about who got this or that, but then theres the ones who think they are sommat there not and are killing the hobby off by giving newbies nothing,
you know my thoughts on clashing but when dates are set then thats it and i doubt anyone goes out there way to clash anything on purpose.
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 18 2008 20:23:18
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Rogers Rig
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For those of you with Sat navs The details are
The Plough Inn 6, Burroughs Road, Ratby , Leicester LE6 0XZ
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 19 2008 21:46:26
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prezaaci
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Events Clashing might possibly get worse if & when more local events are introduced but in many cases it's not such a problem for those with limitations on the amount they can spend on Fuel & travelling. The Financial considerations in this day & age of ever increasing Motoring cost become more prominent every year as does maintenance of vehicles.
All AACI events are 3rd weekend of the relevant month other than the May Bank Holiday.
If the first day of the month is: Fri or Sat or Sun then that is consdered the First Weekend.
If the Month starts with any other Weekday then the nearest weekend to that weekday is tcounted as the first weekend.
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 19 2008 22:26:28
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linmo
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Hi Roger, Sorry about the delay in getting on here, working late again, OK? You seem to be quite happy with things the way they are? thats fine by me, But I see many ways in which the clubs can become more involved with eachother,plus better comunication, I feel the memberships of all clubs would benefit, I do not discriminate between one club or another, Elected officials or where the club was formed by the hard work,finance and guts of one or more individuals! Security and the wellbeing of our club members is way up on my list of priorities, when I say we must take caution, I meant to protect the club and membership,[but you knew that,didn't you?] I will continue on looking for ways to improve things in general and you will not change my views on this, I must apologise Roger, as when I first replied to your post,I pressumed you were a UK official, not that I wouldn't have replied, but this was a mistake, Thanks for the reply Mo
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 19 2008 22:46:35
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linmo
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Hi Roger, I have just read your post again to make sure I have answered all your questions for you, One I overlooked is " What is big and what is small?" in my eyes?
simply this Roger, If a club in the country has 4,000 members,and there is no other club with a bigger membership, then that is big, now compared to this club,all others must be smaller, so if a club has 40 members? then that is a small club, it doesn't mean to say that the guy or Lady running that small club is no good, it just means they are smaller, nothing more nothing less, its a free country and people will do what they wish to do, The other point that may not be clear is, We all wish eachother well within this hobby of ours, but! like I have said before, not everyone is a good guy,so things have to be monitored so's as to protect our clubs and members, Mo.
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 20 2008 8:12:46
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quote:
ORIGINAL: prezaaci
Events Clashing might possibly get worse if & when more local events are introduced but in many cases it's not such a problem for those with limitations on the amount they can spend on Fuel & travelling. The Financial considerations in this day & age of ever increasing Motoring cost become more prominent every year as does maintenance of vehicles.
All AACI events are 3rd weekend of the relevant month other than the May Bank Holiday.
If the first day of the month is: Fri or Sat or Sun then that is consdered the First Weekend.
If the Month starts with any other Weekday then the nearest weekend to that weekday is tcounted as the first weekend.
That's pretty neat H, even I can remember them now ! 
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 20 2008 12:15:36
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prezaaci
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Never deviated Barry although the May Bank Holiday does clash with Gary & the Damn Yankees both Gary & I discussed the situation & reached the conclusion that the R n R Event would not adversley effect the Damn Yankees show attendance & the massive support the one day Damn Yankee show attracts serves to confirm the conclusion we reached.
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 20 2008 13:44:34
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prezaaci
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I should add that should Easter fall on our usual 3rd Weekend slot in April we have no alternative but to change that date & we will strive to avoid any clash under those rare occasions arising through Easter.
Another problem many face is that they are not allowed at many other venues to pick & choose what dates they require so are given choce of alternative Weekends. Fortunately only Easter forces us to alter the usual April Date.
Our 2009 Dates are set already as follows.
Spring Nats.
17th to 19th April.
May Bank Holiday R n R.
1st to 4th May.
Summer Nats.
19th to 21st June.
All Clubs.
14th to 16th August.
Autumn Nats & Muscle Car.
18th to 20th September
< Message edited by prezaaci -- Feb. 20 2008 13:55:06 >
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 20 2008 13:49:02
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You can only do what you can do H !
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RE: Leicester AACUK Meet - Feb. 20 2008 18:44:14
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prezaaci
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Cant argue the point on that one Roger, we did have the RV & Motorcycle Rally later the Classic Rally in September but dates with drawn for 2006 & new Date allocated by new owners of the Venue allowing intro of Autumn Nats now to incorporate Muscle Car. Prior to new ownership I introduced the Autumn Nats on 3rd Weekend of September with the venues previous owner.
As I said in the following Quote.
Another problem many face is that they are not allowed at many other venues to pick & choose what dates they require so are given choce of alternative Weekends. Fortunately only Easter forces us to alter the usual April Date.
On checking the current issue of Class Am listings there are four other events clashing with our Spring Nats. Two more clash with Summer Nats & Steel City clash with both UK & AACI in September.
Even worse there are 8 other events clashing with the Derbyshire AACUK event Rog.
The Season gets busier & busier each year but at least offers more opportunities to enthusiasts living locally to what ever event.
However I'm sure we all strive to avoid conflict of dates but one savng grace is the distance of one individual event to another.
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