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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 12:51:05
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hemiguy
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I can't read the link at work, but I can't believe that.
If I took a picture of a car the picture would belong to me as I took it, it doesn't matter what the subject is....as I say I can't read the link right now but if ford took you to court how do magazines etc get away with publishing them??
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 13:00:30
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F****d if i know Dean but it says
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Not just Ford logos, not just Mustang logos, the car -as a whole- is a Ford trademark and its image can't be reproduced without permission. So even though Ford has a lineup of enthusiasts who want to show off their Ford cars, the company is bent on alienating them
I must say i loved this comment tho
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So, if a government agency takes a photo of my ford going at a high rate of speed then I can get the ticket thrown out because they obtained the image without Ford's permission?
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 13:43:41
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Ford HQ in The USA was on my site last month having a look around it, if they want to take me to court thats fine,, they can have the 27pence i have left a week!
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 16:13:51
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hemiguy
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ORIGINAL: tracey34ukf
F****d if i know Dean but it says
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Not just Ford logos, not just Mustang logos, the car -as a whole- is a Ford trademark and its image can't be reproduced without permission. So even though Ford has a lineup of enthusiasts who want to show off their Ford cars, the company is bent on alienating them
I must say i loved this comment tho
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So, if a government agency takes a photo of my ford going at a high rate of speed then I can get the ticket thrown out because they obtained the image without Ford's permission?
ford built the car and sold you the car, but nowhere does it say what you can do with it.....as I say the law states about copyright thus....
"the person who takes the image owns copyright"
I can see fords arguement about trademark but I guess it doesn't matter if you're not selling them.....if you take pictures for YOUR records then it doesn't count 
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 16:19:29
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tracey34ukf
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From dave's post looks like they back tracked on whether you can use the pics pretty dam fast,
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 19:05:11
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Andy-D
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Absolute rubbish and would never stand in court anywhere.
As a person with a camera, if you physically made the shutter work you own that image, unless of course you're being employed by a photographic company in which case they own the image.
You yourself have composed that image, you have created a file or film production of what you see. Therefore you own the copyright if you want to use it. Personally i rarely watermark or copyright my images as i just do it for a hobby.
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 23:10:10
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Colin
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I think its something to do with the "logo" I belong to the International Ford Retractable Club and Ford were trying to stop the club using the name Ford as it is copywritten. (although were promoting there car)
Also the person who makes and sells the clothing, has to pay money to Ford if she embrodiers Ford on clothing, and its in the tens of thousands of dollers
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 23:22:35
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http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42820 BMC Calendars: Approved by Ford & For Sale!
*** THANK YOU FORD ***
Get rid of those CENSOR graphics ... the calendar issue (and rights to print images of our own vehicles) has been resolved. After hearing from a few members of the Ford marketing and communications team, I have Ford approval to proceed with printing our 2008 calendar as-is as well as use Danni (and our other vehicles) in BMC logos and all the club marketing materials we have been thus far.
The 2008 BMC Calendar featuring the Members of the Month from 2007 is now on sale! I will not be using Cafepress for printing our calendar or any other materials as (1) they have not yet released our calendar for printing as (2) they are not compliant with Ford, and I do not want to support them for that reason. If you wish to order the now-famous calendar, please ORDER HERE through our own online store, and the calendars will ship in approximately 10 days.
Also, just as you emailed Ford, posted on your local forums and spread the word about this issue when it first arose, PLEASE follow-up with a 'thank you' email to Ford, and PLEASE post a link to this new thread on ALL the forums who have been discussing this issue. I appreciate Ford, and want to be sure we get the positive word out now that this is resolved.
Special thank you to Whitney, who has joined our forums and sent the following message:
My name is Whitney Drake and I work in Ford Communications.
We've been watching this discussion with interest and I'd like to
clarify what is essentially a misunderstanding.
Yesterday we spoke to both Cafe Press and the Black Mustang Club
and explained the situation (about the Black Mustang Club’s calendar) to everyone's satisfaction. Ford has no problem with Mustang or other car owners taking pictures of their vehicles for use in club materials like calendars. What we do have an issue with are individuals using Ford’s logo and other trademarks for products they intend to sell. Understandably, we have to take the protection of our brands and licensing very seriously.
Ford did not send the Black Mustang Club a “cease and desist” letter telling them that they could not use images of their own cars in their calendar. The decision not to allow the calendars to be printed was made by Cafe Press, because we had gotten in touch with them in the past about trademark infringements on products they sold.
The Black Mustang Club, and any other Ford enthusiast club, are free to take pictures of their own vehicles for use in calendars or other materials as long as they don't use Ford trademarks in products that will be sold.
I think it is great that the Black Mustang Club, and any other enthusiast club, would take pictures of their own vehicles for use in calendars or other materials.
I'm looking forward to purchasing a copy to hang in the garage next
to my Mustang (even if mine isn't black).
Thanks for giving us the chance to have our say
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 23:25:08
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tracey34ukf
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Glad thats sorted then lol
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RE: I used to like FORD - Apr. 21 2008 23:58:25
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Sounds like a big mis understanding from the outset...and I'm glad it is now settled. Trade Marks have to be protected but there are "jobs-worths" in every company who don't always grasp the realities of the real world!
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